Udit Ji
Whomsoever is thinking that there's a motive behind and is blame game as you said, to all those people I will just say, "Sorry You are Mistaken". It's never was and never will be a personal as the compound is common for all except the apartment/flat individually paid by each owner and have equal stakes which is actually mistaken by many who most of the time used the compound in the welfare name although motives were different for the reasons unknown.
It's always about "US in large interest of residents @ The Nest" and not about "ME". We in the past as well as presently have always stood and educate believers for betterment. We have supported well being and have contributed in our limited capacities in past and would continue do so in the future. But not at behest of being lead by people with dual interest or hidden agenda. I am not sure about anyone & have no right whatsoever on anyone's decision. I have taken mine view and will implement it come what may.
One needs to stand up and pick up our portion of destiny as its individual and not collective. But I do hope the collective destinies can change the face of our future but one needs to strive for it. Rest all are mature and responsible enough to take their individual calls.
Dear Rakesh & All Residents in all groups
I can understand people are getting uncomfortable on receiving many mails on the subject, but it's important to make people aware on what's going on at NRWA as well as achievements of Assotech motives because it's not only my interest or people who involve in email conversation. It's in interest of all residents and collective effort definitely will resolve current issue.
Also Mr. Ravi has come up with suggestion of 'code of conduct' for RWA. But my view applying code on people who are already supported builder will not help
Treat this as my last mail on this subject if any residents would like to discuss. You are most welcome to call me @ 9910769282
Regards
Aftab
Whomsoever is thinking that there's a motive behind and is blame game as you said, to all those people I will just say, "Sorry You are Mistaken". It's never was and never will be a personal as the compound is common for all except the apartment/flat individually paid by each owner and have equal stakes which is actually mistaken by many who most of the time used the compound in the welfare name although motives were different for the reasons unknown.
It's always about "US in large interest of residents @ The Nest" and not about "ME". We in the past as well as presently have always stood and educate believers for betterment. We have supported well being and have contributed in our limited capacities in past and would continue do so in the future. But not at behest of being lead by people with dual interest or hidden agenda. I am not sure about anyone & have no right whatsoever on anyone's decision. I have taken mine view and will implement it come what may.
One needs to stand up and pick up our portion of destiny as its individual and not collective. But I do hope the collective destinies can change the face of our future but one needs to strive for it. Rest all are mature and responsible enough to take their individual calls.
Dear Rakesh & All Residents in all groups
I can understand people are getting uncomfortable on receiving many mails on the subject, but it's important to make people aware on what's going on at NRWA as well as achievements of Assotech motives because it's not only my interest or people who involve in email conversation. It's in interest of all residents and collective effort definitely will resolve current issue.
Also Mr. Ravi has come up with suggestion of 'code of conduct' for RWA. But my view applying code on people who are already supported builder will not help
Treat this as my last mail on this subject if any residents would like to discuss. You are most welcome to call me @ 9910769282
Regards
Aftab
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Ravi Ruhela <ravi.ruhela@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,Let s just take learning from this instance and move on.Let us have some code of conduct binding for office bearers, NRWA and residents on wider communications and endorsements which can be taken as views of the wider community or NRWA or in anyway hurts either or both of them.ThanksRaviOn Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:20 PM, udit kumar <udmittal@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Dear Aftab Ji,
I suggest you to please don't make any general comment about NRWA.
We have also seen the era of "WARRANT" so it would be better to refrain from blame game.
BR,
Udit
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:47:39 +0530 wrote@ Akhil:ý We not need to waste our time
>Dear Mr. KP Mishra
Well you are missing the point here.
It's not the question of working together - its actually the breach of trust
which has happened here. People who were supposed to work for the welfare and
fight against the odds - have chosen to switch sides.
ý
One is giving quotes for price increase
of the builder and the other is taking commissions for being the star seller.
ý
I can see you are working at a very
senior level, please tell me in your work situation someone who was supposed to
work for you, decides to join hands with your biggest competitor - while still
being part of your organization.
ý
What would you do??? I am attaching the
details for your reference. And would really appreciate a revert on this.
Dear Residents
So called NRWA never did any welfare job for residents and always work
against the welfare.
Few examples
NRWA teared poster of protest against builder for connectivity issue lead by Mr. Naval
tripathi and no one participated in protest from NRWA.Again
NRWA removed poster for Dumping
ground protest. No
complaint/action was taken till date against builder.Kshitij
already pointed out two incident where Mr. Naval tripathi received gold
coin from CIPL and Assotech Director Mr. Sanjeev Srivastava for sale of
flats and recent interview by Nest RWA general secretary to support
Assotech the Nest project.
I am not sure when general secretary changed from Mr. Manish to Mr.
Sunil. Nobody know about this change, What kind of association its where
association do not bother to inform about change of general secretary and how
these change take place.
and effort with this association and you rightly said ýýCampa Cola
incident can be happen with any society if they do not have approval in place.ý
We all need to work to get all required approval from builder.
Regards
Aftab
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, KP MISHRA wrote:With Best of Lucký
we all should be together for upbringing the Nest. Differences may be there about the way to achieve it but endeavor should be to improve upon every facilities available in the complex and should not be left on some one will do for you. Please see that every staff employed does its duty. Then only security , lift area maintenance etc could be improved upon. Together we can achieve the goal.
While we need not confront the builder all the time, asking sternly for our rightful things, demanding fulfillment of commitments by the builder are all absolutely necessary. ý
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:26 AM, V.Krishnan wrote:
Dear All
What Mr. Akhil has mentioned in his are all genuine causes for us to worry. I am even now remembering how many years back the top floor of the White House in Bhagwan Das Road was chopped off under court orders. The fridges and belongings were thrown on the the road. And nearly 1.5 crores of Rupees (n those days) was lost by the owner.
It could happen to us as Mr. Akhil says, in the near or far off future.
Writing mail is an essential component of welfare activities, why welfare, any activity. Not all will be able to attend meetings all the time. That is why the electronic mail is used to disseminate information. For example, I do not know how many of us are aware of this fact. RBI has recently reiterated its earlier announced guidelines, that the interest on bank loan utilized by any buyer should by borne by the builder until the owner is given possession of the flat. I know in my instance, I gave the cheque for Rs. 24 Lakhs drawn in the name of Assotech Ltd. in the middle of January 2010. I got the possession of the house ( different from what I originally booked in E block) in the 3rd week of January 2012. The interest to the bank was paid by me during this period ( but should have been paid by the Builder according RBI guidelines). What our friends have got to say for this? I do not know how many of us are in the same terrain. Only sharing of information on the mail can help us to know and impart knowledge..
Best regards to all
Krishnan
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Mohd Aftab wrote:I hope you all are aware of recent Campa Cola Complex situation in Mumbai in news andýyou must have read today detailed Article on the subject in HT and also you must be watching the hot news debate on the subject on daily telecast on all channelsý. For those who are not, I will bring them up to speedýup and be more vigilant surrounding your stakes.
FYI to allassotechresidents@googlegroups.com
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Residents @ Assotech The Nest,
The issue is there are around 100 flats in theýmultistoriedýcomplex which are illegallyýconstructed by the builder. There were residents living in those premises for years. The Honorable Supreme Court of Indiaon Monday, upheld the petition filed byýtheýComplainants and passed the judgment of demolition of these flats. A temporary reprieve for 6 months has been awarded to the residents of the flat owners. ý
ý
One would wonder, how does this impact us or in any way related to our Societyýi.e. The Nest. Well, the matter is not alien to us in any manner.Other than the issues ofýpatheticLifts, Exteriors,ýBuilding Structure,andýmanyýother shortfalls of the builderýas promised while delivering "The Nest" ýýthere are huge Compliance issues within the complexýandýas well other project atCrossings as a whole.ýFor example, non-approved floors of couple of towers, illegalýconstructedýtower in the complex,change in super areas, set back /open area as per approved plans, Fire NOC, Lifts NOC, etc. etc.
The builder is using the opportunity very well by dividing residents on caste, creed and religion. And sadly people are hands in glove in support with the builder for petty favors without realizing the harm they are doing to all the residents of the complex. The builder is very smartly fooling all theýresidents,example of that is the maintenance agreement of ASSOTECH Ltd. where the builder has mentioned a clause where if he doesnýt perform, the residents would require 80% of owners to vote against him , however if he doesnýt want to continue, builder can walk out within a dayýs notice. Somehow this important fact was never brought to light till dateýand may not have read by all those who had signed the blank maintenance agreement at the gun point of builder.
Coming back to the issue willýsuch type of illegalities done by builderýcome to our complex ever???? Well, yes and 100& true, Itýs just a matter of time when something will come and hit all of usýand builder will be trapped for which time is not far.ýPersonally itýs now individual/owners call whether you want to let the circus running ýas a normal businessý or not. Itýs your hard earned money at stake, your & your family future at stake. We can continue to be ignorant and wait for the day when the actual issue would come and strike us all outýin one go without any fault of us as this is rampant across the country at the moment.
Coming to the issue highlightedýon the subject ýI hope all the knowledgeable and educated people understand the term ýOffice of profitý the term here means ýThe termýas used in Article 102 (1)(A) of the Indian Constitution which bars a member of the Indian Parliament from holding an office that would give its occupant the opportunity to gain a financial advantage or benefit.ýý
My question toýresidents at large, ýHow this is not applicable to theýtwo person inýquestioný? And are they not trying to gain personal benefits by virtue of holding office and doing activities which are against the position they are holdingýthat too illegally.If there are financial benefits which needs to be driven the term applicable is ýBusinessý and not ýWelfare Associationý.
Please noteýýthis hasbeen taken enough by the people involved , soýif itýsýnot stoppedýimmediately, Iýknowhow would see to itýby involving govt. authoritiesto get itdone so with the help of appropriate competent authorityýat the earliest. Take a note of this.
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:01 PM, wrote:Sent from BlackBerryý on AirtelFrom: Mohd Aftab
This is to be inform to all concerned that the controversial artical is individuals preference of course of an NRWA general secretary but this is not to be interpreted as NRWA stand. NRWA regular meeting of its excutive committee shall held in. A-block office on 17 NOV 2013 all members should make it convenient to attend for transaction of regular business. Any other person interested in contributing to carry forward constructive work related to cause of NRWA work shall be welcome. Let us not preach each other as of now every one knows who is what. Therefore it time for most of the people at stake for self intro expansion .please do not under estimate wisdom of Co resident non are less intelligent and resource full than those trying to create ripples for no great issue. Please do not reply at least for my this mail. Thanks and regards A N Verma
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:04:16 +0530To: the-nest-residents-welfare-association@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Assotech Support - in HT Estates (9th Nov'13)
+ Assotech yahoo group
Regards
Aftab
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Kshitij Mathur wrote:Price Tag 3 BHK @ The Nest for Rs. 75 Lacsý. However by replying you took such
Dear
Mr. Sunil & Mr. Naval Tripathi
ý
This is to clarify that by sending an
email with attached Article, my intent was only make the residents aware to
have an answer on a simple query that I raised that ýwhat was the need to brand
the ASSOTECH , what triggered you to such a conclusion to not only brand
the ASSOTECH as well as further brand the brand Ambassador of ASSOTECH & tofor the cause of the residents. Then whereýs the outcome and what is NRWA
a defensive, diplomatic and political approach which clearly proves your good
and healthy companionship with MD-ASSOTECH alongwith other NRWA team who is
using NRWA as Marketing & Promotion team for ASSOTECH-The Nest rather doing
any welfare work for the residents. You yesterday evening over the phone call,
was talking a different tone and outcome in this reply mail is nothing but to
protect the shortcomings and defaults of ASSOTECH, as if ASSOTECH is your as
well as NRWA mother concern.
ý
I am taking an opportunity to put
perspective on something, i.e. NRWA is not doing anything for the residents
rather pushing its own agenda and driving personal missions. For example, camps
in the society by calling car dealers etc on the face benefit of the society
but financial gains of the NRWA.
ý
You are claiming that NRWA is fightingthe NRWA doesnýt come forward to file a complaint with the GDA and other
doing to arrest the situation. If the concerns are so surmounting then why doesýThe Nestý for the reasons best known to you and your fellow colleague Mr.
authorities to seek support and get the builder to deliver on the promises
being made. At this stage when NRWA is complete failure what was the need to
Price Tag 3 Bed Room Flat for Rs 75 Lacs that too in the year 2007 when
everyone bought the Flat in the range of 30-40 Lacs. Even if presumes
that by clerical error year 2007 was mentioned , even then as on today in 2013
you are claiming and branding the tag of Rs. 75 Lacs for 3BHK Flat for nothing
but for ASSOTECH's personal gains. It clearly proves that the byte given by you
in HT state was nothing but to create hype for the sale of pending inventory of
Tripathi.ýý ýýýý
ýý
Is this because NRWA doesnýt have the
will to do anything is wasting time? Or because you donýt have an authority toAct.ýýEveryone is well aware that this not an Elected body and which
do anything! Also you mentioned that 22 members are running NRWA. Can you
please clarify whether these 22 members were selected by some audition process
of political skills or by Election process of RWA as U.P. Apartment
canýt be created till such time thereýs completion certificates given to anyNRWA didnýt have any part in my decision of purchase in this society. But I
society by the concerned government authority to the respective builder.
ý
I completely agree that the current
donýt think that is true for all as your star salesman Mr. Naval Tripathiý
would be the right person to answer how many Flats he sold on behalf of
ASSOTECH and how many are in process. I too have seen the photograph of him
receiving the Gold Chain alongwith his wife from Mr. Sanjeev Srivastava under
the programme called ASSORT a sale initiative by ASSOTECH. Copy of Pictures
attached herewith.
Itýs very funny to see the people are75 Lacs in the year 2007, ýI believe that must have been reflected
claiming to be most proactive for welfare activities are the ones who are
leading a charade against the builder in the name of NRWA. Kudos to all of you
as because of your gimmicks people who have taken their possessions 2 years
back, have no right available going forward with any courts for resolution. And
similar, who are still ignorant they too would lose for their properties.
Unlike others, I have been more proactive and have taken all the steps to
ensure my interests are protected.
ý
Now coming back to the reason behind
the quote, do you still think it was a wise decision to pick this property @ 75
lacs in 2007. Be honest if not to anyone else but to yourself. Or you too echo
the sentiments of Mr. Naval Tripathi, your fellow NRWA member and the most
proactive welfare personality of The Nest. If you have bought the Flat for Rs.stage at appropriate time.ý
in your Income Tax return which can be called for verification at appropriate
ýýRegards,
Now the entire group is waiting for
your answer. I am sure at least this is one thing which I am sure you would
come out to answer.
ý
PS
Are you opening up the darbar again which was started in a flush last year
and died out even more suddenly without informing anyone. So, what all we
looking at covering this time round? Or again is it the old wine in old bottle.
Also please do share the list of these Special 22 I & all the people would
love to know them better.
ý
Encl:
Picture attached for information of all.
Regards,Kshitij
Kshitij Mathur>Dear Mr Kshitij,ý
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:09 PM, udit kumar wrote:
Dear Sir,
The only concern i have is that, if you had given a chance to publish an article in HT estate, probably you could have write about the present conditions(as the article is published recently and not at the time your purchase) and expose the builder for his fake promises on such a big platform(HT Estate).
If we could have done this then probably we could have achieved more in terms of overall society progress, but it seems that we missed this golden opportunity for the reason unknown.
BR,
Udit
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:51:18 +0530 wrote
to achieve the best. This is an ongoing process.ý NRWA is made after all came in together and was
Thanks for your email, and information that you
have read an article in HT dated 9th Nov 2013. I also appreciate the concern
shown for the cause directly related to problems of other co-residents as well,
and some reaction from you after a long pause.
I tried to reach you on phone, and as discussed.
Your confusion may be right as you are not able to
follow many open meetings called between residents and builder and or regular
weekly meeting with the Estate Manger every week, where things are updated and
discussed on regular basis in an open forum.
Now I am surprised to see your concern of fighting along
with other residents for pending issues, separately whereas NRWA is doing this
already, and I have been supporting it with full of my capacity. Opening another
platform individually not only weakens the stand of residents but also poses you
at different front, which may not be as effective at it may appear. I request
you to share your personal experience with the builder and your struggle for
getting things resolved and your effective success so that all may be benefited.
As you may already be aware that, NRWA is working
as a team of 22 representatives and no single individual is a leader or
decision making body, however all individuals have their own rights to express
their opinion. The meetings with the top management of Assotech were always
done with a team of residents. Unlike
many people leaving the NRWA instead of fighting for the cause, we still strive
Dear Mr. Sunil -ýSecretary NRWA,
nowhere a part of the decision making to select Assotech as your preferred
house. Everyone here may certainly had some reason to select, mine is now known
to all.
Also to clarify you about the article published, it
clearly mentions the process of selecting the builder and not the current state
of the Nest. Hope you will read the article again and notice the point, also nowhere
in the article I have mentioned about the
conditions at the Nest presently.
All residents along with you, are requested to join
regular meetings with Assotech every Sunday to update themselves and
collectively take things in a direction so that they may be resolved. You will
regularly notice yourself, the progress on swimming pool, club etc along with
other concerns raised by you.
Nothing triggered me to write this article, this is
just a small piece of a full survey done on the process of selecting a builder
and nowhere related to their actual performance.
P.S. : Please become part of all nest residents , as request is already send to you,
this will update you more frequently
Awaiting for
active personal participation in the meetings, and not only on mails.
Regards
Sunil
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Kshitij Mathur wrote:
My only concern is where we along with all residents @ The Nest were fighting & struggling with the builder for all the pending issues which he has failed to deliver against the promises made and at this stage when after rigorous efforts of NRWA by verbal discussions & in written letters under your leadership are totally ignored by Assotech , rather taking recourse to solve the pending issues,ý what was the need arise to endorse the brand ASSOTECH. Is it a decision of NRWA to endorse the brand or it was your personal decision.ýýýýýýýýý
First of all I would like to congratulate you on the HT Estate Article, on 9th Nov '13. I felt really proud to read that Article from a fellow resident who being a proactive volunteer of NRWA team members. It is really a WOW news for all residents @ The Nest
But personally, I am surprised & more confused as well for the reason that till recently you in the capacity of Secretary of NRWA along with the other team members was discussing about the multiple issues and problems being faced by all the residents with builders on which builder has totally ignored despite a loud protest was called by NRWA but builder being adamant had not even rectify a single defect whether it be Lift functioning, Quality of Exterior Paints of Towers, Allocation of Parking Space, Compliance documents of FIRE, Lifts NOC, Tower Approvals, Status of one additional tower not in the original plan, Swimming pool & Club etc etc.
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I along with many residents @ The Nest who were and are struggling at the hands of builder would request you or entire NRWA team members to please share the list of issues which are resolved as of now because I could not see as such any progress on any front.
Also would like to know specifically from you what was the trigger to give bytes in HT favouring ASSOTECH.
P.S. I am not part of allassotechresidents@googlegroups.com , I request residents to please forwarded mail to this group so everyone is aware about good work of NRWA.
Awaiting for an urgent revert from your side.
Regards,
Kshitij Mathur
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